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The Expedition Vehicle

I’ve finally started the journey towards my own Land Rover expedition. Recently I purchased this 1992 Land Rover Defender 110 Hardtop 200Tdi from eBay. I’ve already found myself trawling catalogues and websites for things I can buy to upgrade it with. My journey to make the ultimate expedition vehicle has begun.

Buying an expedition Land Rover relies on a few choices depending on what your main purpose is. Any Land Rover can be used effectively, but Defenders from 1990 to 1998 seem to be the popular choice. My vehicle also sits in this bracket, and my reasons are fairly similar to others who buy Land Rover Defenders as expedition vehicles:

  • It’s a 110 Hardtop
  • It’s has a 200Tdi
  • It’s in fairly good condition
  • The price

The spec

A Defender has the ground clearance, the ease of modification and simplicity of maintenance that aren’t a given with a Discovery. The 110 was a definite choice over the 90, as they have better load space to carry expedition equipment. I would have settled for a Station Wagon, although as I don’t have kids or intend to carry many people on expedition, the Hardtop allows me to get even more stuff in the back. It means there are fewer doors to rust and less potential break-in points! It’s also fairly standard spec, so gives me a blank canvas on which to design my ultimate expedition vehicle.

The engine

It would always prefer to have a pre-Td5 engine that didn’t rely on electronics that could be mended in the middle of nowhere with simple tools. The 200Tdi, although an earlier model than the 300Tdi, has a good reputation for reliability, and it’s well known that a diesel is the best expedition engine.

This one being at 205,000 miles still has the potential for plenty of life to go. The 300Tdi’s, whilst of similar performance, have reliability issues with head gaskets and timing belts on the early engines. Having said that, I would have settled on either. The fact it’s a 200Tdi meant I was able to pick it up for under £2000. Had it been a 300Tdi the price could have been a lot more.

The condition

I have seen better examples of Defenders, but a lot worse. From the photo it does look quite gleaming. It had had a fair amount of work done already such as a new clutch, tires, modular wheels, timing belt and the engine runs smoothly; all of which help to settle the nerves when buying a 17 year old Land Rover.

However, the hinges are rusty, some parts of the chassis are a bit crispy, the radiator’s damaged, the fuel light stays on, the doors are rotting, the transfer box leaks from both ends and so do the sump and rear diff. The fact it has a few niggly issues makes me glad that I have a Land Rover that I can learn from and feel more confident in fixing should I find myself lost in Africa with no mechanic.

The price

Your choice of expedition vehicle comes a lot down to your budget. I intend to use it as a project and get the satisfaction of modifying it over the coming years, but you may want to pay a bit more to have a ready made expedition vehicle. My budget was optimistically set and after 3 months looking at Land Rovers on eBay for a good “cost to condition to suitability” ratio, and looking closer to see exactly what i’ve bought, I feel happy that I got a good deal. They’re definitely out there! This way i’m still able to get a decent capable vehicle, but spread out over a few more years…

The future

As i’m not going on expedition quite yet, I’m glad I afforded myself the time to research the market and strike when the factors were right.

It was a big step of commitment but it has made the vision of going on expedition a definite reality. In the coming months i’ll be fixing/repairing/modifying the Land Rover as the pay cheques clear. Watch this space….

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14 Responses to “The Expedition Vehicle”

  1. 13 Aug 09 at 5:59 pm

    Hey All the best with your upgrades to your Landy and also 3 cheers to your great choice of the Tdi instead of the TD5!

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  2. 3 Sep 09 at 8:25 pm

    hey mate, good work on the purchase; i’m looking at similar models, but 300 tdi’s. be great to chat – i’m looking to overland taunton to cape town october 2010 for four months, and i’m looking to work up my vehicle for the trip, too.

    richard

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  3. 5 Sep 09 at 11:25 pm

    Hi,
    i am so pleased to have found this web page among hundreds of others
    your expedition is an inspiration

    ive just bought my first landy two days ago, a 1988 defender 110 2.5td, paid 2000 and it really is an absolute gem of a vehicle, a couple of bulbs and a windscreen wiper later its now ready for the mot due in a couple of weeks,
    now im writing this as i think so bear with me…
    when i was a kid (32 now) i used to fall asleep whilst playing the ‘journey across the sahara’ with my brother and sister in the same room, lights off, sat up in our own beds (landys) ‘driving’ across the desert.
    come to think of it, we never did get to the other side…..
    I didn’t even know where your expedition is going but it instantly reminded me of my older brother stumbling around a darkened room pretending to buy winches and water from a crazy marrakesh bazaar
    this is now my dream, an expedition across the sahara, ive got my first driving seat in a 4×4 trail tomorrow with dorsetrovers, that’ll test the beast (and my mettle) i’m sure

    Jon
    bournemouth

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    B Penny Reply:

    If fitted with an uninter-cooled original TD engine budget for a 200TDi swap and do it sooner rather than later as decent engines are commanding a lot on money.

    The TD suffers with oil starvation to turbo bearings when worked hard.

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  4. 20 Feb 10 at 11:12 pm

    Will, I stumbled across your site this evening – great source of tips. I finally took the plunge in September 2009 and bought my own Land Rover via Ebay and am really enjoying the experience and plan to go on many expeditions in the years ahead (age 42). Having spent several years in the (reserve) forces, I’ve been around Land Rovers quite a bit so it’s great to be driving one now as a ‘civvy’. My motor is right up your street:-
    Land Rover Defender 110 CSW V8 3.9 Efi – 1991 on an H Plate. The Tdi was professionally replaced in 1997 to the V8 by Dunsfold Land Rover by the previous owner (at a cost of £7,500 back then!) which included brand new gear box and other ancilliaries plus the recon (NAS) engine. Mileage is 118,000 for the vehicle but about 60,000 on the V8. I paid £1,850 on Ebay and have just spent £2,500 at Dunsfold ensuring the vehicle is more-or-less ‘expedition ready’ (new rear X-member, foot- well welding, stepper motor etc. etc.). She runs superbly and, with around 200BHP, can surprise a few motorists. Where legal, she hums along the motorway and can easily exceed 90 MPH. My questions is this – I’ve seen your comments about diesel engines – when on an expedition, is the lower cost of petrol in far flung places around the world (compared with UK petrol prices) likely to be less of an issue? Any other comments on V8 engines as the only downside seems to be petrol cost (many off-roaders I’ve met seem to be in awe of V8s). Cheers, Pat

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    B Penny Reply:

    V8 uses more fuel. You need to carry more fuel for the range, this increases weight.
    If wading the V8 will lose power when the plugs get wet.
    Is the ECU mounted high or sealed? if this gets wet where are you going to get another from?
    People use the 200/300 diesel because it’s basic, can run on anything from poor quality fuel, heating oil to cooking oil, they can be fixed by the world and it’s wife and return a half way decent mpg.
    The V8 may return 8-12mpg when loaded up.

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  5. 22 Feb 10 at 6:08 pm

    Hi Patrick

    Good to hear you’ve taken the leap! My point of view for recommending diesel engines for expeditions is due to a number of differences between petrol engines. They have more torque at lower revs, which means they’re better at crawling slowly and/or keeping moving if the revs drop in mud, etc.

    Diesel is marginally cheaper than petrol around the world (except the UK!). I was in Morocco last week and petrol was 9 Dirhams (72p) whereas diesel was 7 Dirhams(56p) per litre. There is also the argument that diesels are less reliant on electrics, which helps if encountering water, and are more fuel efficient, keeping costs down over long distances on expedition.

    V8s also have their power at the top end and rely more on speed to get through obstacles, which hitting something at speed could give your Land Rover more of a beating.

    Having a V8 though is certainly not a problem. It’s entirely dependent on the type of terrain you will drive and how you drive it.

    Hope that clarifies things a bit,
    WIll

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  6. 22 Mar 10 at 10:19 pm

    Wow, what a perfect time to find your article. I have actualy been looking at everything from land rover to wikepedia where all of the engines are listed. I have read the history in its entirety. I am preparing for my move to Belize and found a few dealers there. They have both the 2.4 which has a tremendous amount of power compared to the 300tdi, that is the other optional motor available even in the 2010 models there. I am going to buy new or possibly one or two of the ROW vehicles available at http://www.adventuretrex.com

    They show a small room full of them. The other dealer is
    http://www.jmamotors.com/landrover/defender.html

    I spoke with people at both so seeing you are from there help me with that one :)

    I as I said was looking at the 2.4 but reading all the emp stuff on it and being prior military too and an expat I am def going tdi lol

    Good on ya mate with the landy and her upgrades I can’t wait till I am in one and sloshin around the mud. Please let me know how to find ya to learn the trails down there. you have my email. I am pretty much decided on a 130 crewcab if I can find that motor in it. That is my dream the p/u truck. It was the 110 wagon till I saw the crew cab truck and realized it is still shorter than a reg cab chevy.

    Good on all you guys on here, I am learning fast this is the only way to fly.

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  7. 23 Mar 10 at 3:20 pm

    Since I am here let me ask, can you supercharge the 300TDI ? Just curious cause it would make it more powerful than the 2.4 I bet.

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  8. 30 Mar 10 at 9:30 pm

    Hi Lt

    You’ve pretty much found the only two places in Belize that deal with Land Rovers. JMA are the official dealers and don’t have a very good reputation. Graham at AdventureTrex fixed the vehicles I drove and is a great guy. Very good workmanship and knows his stuff. He’s really becoming the ‘go to’ man for LR stuff in Belize.

    I don’t live there any more though. Wish I did still. Not sure you can supercharge the 300Tdi, but I really don’t have much of an idea! Sorry.

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  9. 31 Mar 10 at 6:33 pm

    Hey wow, thanks for that. That was pretty much my impression too. The young girl responding to me from JMA was actualy very honest in telling me that if I wanted to see and drive before I bought not to go to them. They are mostly an order only for defenders. Adventure Trex had allready become my choice. :) I like the location better too. West side of Belize (country) found em on google earth.

    You lived here, so why did you decide to move and why do you wish you were still here. I would be interested in knowing the after side of things if you would be so kind.

    Not real worried about the supercharge was just a thought of ok if it fails you still have the 300 lol

    I def cant wait till I go, I am looking at the 130 crew cab or the 110 wagon, torn between em and sure I will go back and forth several times till I see em both side by side.

    Awesome site man thanks.

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  10. 7 Jun 10 at 4:58 am

    Noticed this website, and given your interest in rooftop tents and expedition vehicles thought I would post some details on what I have done to a Defender 130.

    http://www.exploroz.com/Members/33714/MyProfile.aspx

    Cheers

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  11. 21 Nov 10 at 10:32 pm

    Disagree, 300tdi is the better engine choice always, I own 2x300tdi 110 and a 200tdi 90 – the 200 is noisy and tiring to drive all day and has to be worked harder – based on pulling a caravan 250 miles for festival work.
    200k on a defender is fine provided it has been owned by someone interested in the vehicle, having the vehicle serviced regularly by a garage doesn’t look after it in areas such as door frames, bulk heads, bi-metallic corrosion – it is always cheaper in the long run to buy a straight clean vehicle than a refurbishment project – plus you will never see the money back on all the must have goodies.

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  12. 9 Jul 11 at 1:50 pm

    Hi good web site hope all goes well am driving to australia in my 200 tdi disco doing the prep now engine is better choice than a 300tdi.thanks

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